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Exploring Debt's Inability to Create Value

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alberthoff
Tired•Apr 25, 2025, 1:36 PM•1 min read
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alberthoff
alberthoffApr 25, 2025, 1:36 PM
tired
You guys ever think about how debt as we understand it, can’t create value?
aquaticram
aquaticramApr 25, 2025, 2:04 PM
baseline
All the time. I joke about wiping the debt and starting over, but seriously...all it does it put us in this cycle of our money not being our own, and that nothing comes without strings attached.
alberthoff
alberthoffApr 25, 2025, 2:07 PM
tired
@aquaticram exactly it only keeps at a balance once you repay it. It can only create a lack of value or at best become nothing once again. It keeps the world dependent on propping up the system of credit and debt. Debt/credit are just the spirit of value.
erick
erickApr 25, 2025, 3:08 PM
baseline
Money is a letter of debt, yesterday at the IMF I was advocating to rethink historical debt, as a testament of predatory loans.
prophet
prophetApr 25, 2025, 3:27 PM
baseline
money isn't anything, it's a placeholder, and yet we built our whole world around it
alberthoff
alberthoffApr 25, 2025, 3:32 PM
tired
@erick absolutely in the case of Haiti especially it caused much ruin and decline because of French pillaging and then the acquisition of that debt by citi bank that then restarted the debt.
alberthoff
alberthoffApr 25, 2025, 3:33 PM
tired
@prophet the true creator of value in all cases in labor that’s what anything even worth selling. Yet because of that place holder labor is exploited as a commodity

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