
lilphantom93May 28, 2026, 5:29 PM
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Gods showing me my character defects today and telling me to embrace the darkside. There is a difference between the darkness and the enemy. The darkness is not the enemy. The enemy is Anti-Creation. Maybe Satan could be on our side unless he is truly the Anti-Creator

benderMay 28, 2026, 5:40 PM
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āDarkness is not the enemyā

mrsaruns44May 29, 2026, 10:58 AM
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@lilphantom93 this is deep . In my experience Satan is the āAnti Creatorā bc the fall was triggered by God creating Man and the Jealousy he felt. My perspective could be wrong but thatās just how I perceive it

lilphantom93May 29, 2026, 3:05 PM
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Anymore im seeing a version of reality where God saved even Satan and Satan works for God doing the evil God refuses to do

lilsoutherngothMay 29, 2026, 6:28 PM
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@lilphantom93 youāre not entirely wrong or off track. I Hyperfix on Bibleā¦. Satan in Hebrew means adversary. Satanās been really distorted overtime when you compare modern beliefs to actual doctrine.
I challenge the idea of: for or against. I believe embracing the darkness, is part of the path to enlightenment. š¤ only through the darkness can we see the light. š”

lilsoutherngothMay 29, 2026, 6:34 PM
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@mrsaruns44 I study the Bible a lot and recently went down the rabbit hole on Satan. What surprised me is that the actual doctrine doesnāt give him much power at all. He isnāt a creator or an antiācreator, because he never creates anything in the text. God is the one who names Himself the maker of both light and darkness. In Scripture, Satan shows up more as a psychological tempter than a cosmic force.

dopealiciousfervorMay 30, 2026, 4:28 AM
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@lilsoutherngoth I too hold this belief, my guru Paramahansa Yogananda speaks fully embracing the light and carrying the yoke of Christ is the only true way to ultimate happiness.
All in all, I believe we can integrate the shadow for alchemization but that doesnāt mean it needs to be executed in the physical. All work can be done through the spiritual eye and through embodying the light. If we want a world of good vibrations how can we be the ones to push bad into the world.

dopealiciousfervorMay 30, 2026, 4:29 AM
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@lilsoutherngoth the power of the flesh is Satan I believe and were told to forget the flesh in search of higher being and truth

lilsoutherngothMay 31, 2026, 11:22 PM
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@dopealiciousfervor I donāt need a guru to tell me anything. God already gave me what I need, and He answers me in silence. Any knowledge I look for just confirms whatās already in me. I also donāt believe the flesh is evil or tied to Satan, thatās a manāmade idea, not something Jesus or God ever taught. If you can show me where either of them says to deny the flesh to reach enlightenment, Iāll look, but itās not in Scripture.

dopealiciousfervorMay 31, 2026, 11:57 PM
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@lilsoutherngoth I donāt believe in an evil, Satan is the necessary duality to God so we may experience this universe at all. Jesus said, some demons go out only through prayer and fasting. Demons are tied to the flesh. The flesh to me embodies picking comfort over our highest good. āNah I donāt wanna go pick my nephew up from the bus stop Iām tiredā but your intuition is screaming at you to do it. The main point Jesus makes is āI am the way the truth and the light, no one gets to the father except through meā this speaks to Christ consciousness being the only way to the father (enlightenment). Good day

lilsoutherngothJun 1, 2026, 12:10 AM
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@dopealiciousfervor I think weāre coming from different frameworks, and Iām trying to understand yours. I study Gnostic and mystical teachings, and Christ consciousness resonates with me, but the idea of demons being tied to the literal flesh isnāt something Iāve seen in doctrine. I understand energetic openness and spiritual fitness, but thatās different from the body itself being the source of anything. Can you explain how youāre defining āthe fleshā and how demons connect to it in your view? Iām genuinely trying to understand where youāre coming from.

dopealiciousfervorJun 1, 2026, 9:05 AM
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@lilsoutherngoth Anytime we are not operating from our higher selves we lose ourselves in doubt to God

lilsoutherngothJun 1, 2026, 6:15 PM
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@dopealiciousfervor If ānot being in the higher selfā equals doubting God, then every traumatized or spiritually uneducated person is automatically in doubt?
Can you explain how that fits with your flesh + satan model?

dopealiciousfervorJun 1, 2026, 9:26 PM
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@lilsoutherngoth Sure, so anytime we move out of fear it is doubting God because weāre not acting to our highest God capabilities of love. In Hinduism all the gods are riding on animals to show our higher selves (higher wisdom) have control over our lower selves (animal instincts). Jung said we spend the 1st half of our life gaining our ego (aka our flesh/demons because itās separate from God union consciousness because our actions are not being acquitted through love. Ik this is a hard truth and very radical to say.) and the 2nd half of life dissolving the ego.
So all in all, I was speaking of demons as a loose term cause it ultimately doesnāt matter if you have ādemonsā or not because once you reach samadhi everything falls through. Demons are a tool to speak through our temptations. the demon of caffeine addiction, the demon of nicotine addiction, the demon of sex addiction. There is also temptations/demons of the ego, these are the strongest. The seven deadly sins would come to mind, the demon of pride, gluttony, lust, etc.
Adiós

callmekadeJun 2, 2026, 12:19 PM
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I recently wrote a paper that partially talked about our shadow self. I often hear it talked about in a negative way, like they are personal detriments. And while at times they may appear that way, they are really just the parts of us that we are uncomfortable with and donāt want to see and donāt want others to see. When we start to see ourselves as containing light and dark and that just being part of our humanity itās a lot easier to handle our darker nature, imo.

xbethxJun 4, 2026, 3:49 PM
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I donāt believe satan exists. the figure was used to control people. To elicit fear to have them conform. Much of the bible is edited and bits of been changed and retracted.
the best reference if you are exploring shadow and light is āÆļø
Yin yang essentially is saying there is good in the bad and bad in the good.
jealousy for example. It is an emotion that either motivates you to achieve whatever your jealousy leads you to want. OR you can react negatively to that emotion and do something spiteful or vengeful with it.
āDarknessā is kind of subjectiveā¦
What you consider to be ādarkā is potentially just a coin you havnt yet considered another side of.
This is essentially the path of integration and later.. embodiment
